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've learned over the years in advertising. >> what's interesting is the romney campaign didn't do it. >> i was about to say, josh, how did that compare with the beached whale of the rnc and the romney campaign officially known as orca? you know, give me some sense here that we had a clue, but i guess not, right? >> well, no. i mean, i think we're talking about two different things here. the obama campaign in general when it came to technology was years more advanced, i'm afraid, than anything the rnc or romney did. maybe that has something to do with your departure, michael. >> i would think so. we can have that conversation, too. >> the obama campaign, not only did they have a staff of 20 people writing just these e-mails, they were sort of monkeys chained to typewriters or computers, i guess. they also had an entire digital analytics team that would run controlled a.b. testing of each of these different e-mails. they would find the one that worked, and then they would blast that out to their e-mail list of tens of millions of supporters who dutifully would chip in more and more money. i
they didn't make it. ted cruz says that the real problem with mitt romney's disastrous 47% quote was that it accepted the notion that some people are rich. some people are poor. and that's how the pie looks. and then you redistribute among them. he's saying no. true conservatism -- and we've heard joe say this around the table -- >> absolutely. >> -- true conservatism means that everybody can do anything and that the republican party's missed that message. that's what they need to turn to. >> it's going to be interesting to see how they do that and if ted cruz becomes sort of the force in this. what do you think? what's your gut, mike? >> he's already offering himself -- he clearly wants to play that role. >> yeah. >> he said last night, i'm something that's not supposed to exist, a hispanic republican. so ted cruz is one of the most interesting parts of this reinvention of the republican party. another part of it, the new emphasis on immigration. >> yes. >> the effort to reach hispanics. we have a story up today saying that already republicans are going to pieces over this. that
. it's like mitt romney's dumb press conference the day after libya exploded and the ambassador died. there is a time and place -- there are so many ways to go after susan rice. >> and there are real questions on whether she even has the temperament to be secretary of state. that's a big question in washington, d.c. let me say it again. does susan rice have the temperament to be secretary of state? there are a lot of people, democrats who will tell you privately that just maybe she doesn't. but we're not talking about this. this is a clown show that's going on right now. what is -- >> i love that debate. >> well, the long game is unclear and the short game is even more unclear because they're not going to hold up the nomination of susan rice. i meaning if you look at the big picture. they only need to peel off -- i don't know what the number is five or six republican senators. >> who do they end up making stronger? >> they make the obama white house or susan rice look stronger but fighting the fight, three, four, five of them on a losing cause and won't hold up the nomination with fo
wanted to go in inner cities, talk about poverty, and he got slapped back by the romney folks who said there's no constituency, there's no votes, we're not focusing on those issues. >> what's the next act for paul ryan coming off a losing vice presidential bid? what does he do four years from now or eight years from now? >> from my reporting, it's clear that rubio wants it and wants it badly. and i think wanting it matters when running for president. if you want it badly, you'll do all that stuff. we understand from folks talking to paul ryan, he doesn't want it as badly and isn't sure he wants to run. for the next two years, he's front and center in the fiscal debate. is he going to be the leader of resistance among conservatives or part of the solution? and i don't think he's made a decision yet. early signals are he's not where john boehner and others are as far as his openness to certain compromises, but at the end of the day, he could be there and i think that will be a big indication of what he wants to do and where he goes. >> and paul ryan signed on to the boehner plan yesterda
. and i was surprised in the campaign that neither the president nor mitt romney actually took that as sort of a bull whip to kind of shape the argument. >> talking like that, that's why you're referred to as former republican national chairman. >> funny. >> there's an interesting, you know, i don't know, third rail option -- i don't think it will come to this -- but there's sort of a -- let's say we go over the cliff. the republicans, you know, do not -- they hold firm. we go over the cliff. then we'll no doubt reinstate the tax cuts on the middle class. so then they could have political cover for actually taking credit for the tax cuts. even though -- of course, we don't want it to come to that. that would destroy the markets, i think. >> oh, yeah. >> do you have any idea of how many times willie and i have taken this particular show over the cliff? >> we did it about 6:01 this morning. lay on the gas. by the way, "the wall street journal" is calling for republicans to call the president's bluff on. we'll get into that later. >>> coming up, in ordford ceo a mulally. also nbc
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